I could not tell the difference between the recoil in the Remington Versamax or V3's that I had as compared to the M2's and SBE II's and III's in the field. No, I’ve seen lots of 2.75″ shells fired in 2 1/2, 2 5/8 and 2 9/16ths long chambers. I can hardly say enough nice things about the folks in Oklahoma. I also discovered that the charging handle on the bolt is extremely difficult to remove. – As good as TSJC, a well-equipped school with lots of good professional ‘smiths who come in to teach They are made by Carlson and are marked as such. Things can and do change for corporations and this appears to be a very good design and execution by manufacturing. A higher point of aim would have improved the scores. What’s a couple of ounces between friends? “It really shoots good. Three shots with Estate shells showered my face with hot particles, but that did not happen with Winchester, Remington or Hevi-Shot ammunition. Any suggestions? People howled. No “O” ring. It’s a no-frills semiautomatic shotgun built to handle any waterfowl or upland bird hunting duty. That’s a tough act to follow, as the 1100/11-87 enjoys a loyal following of fans — myself included. MSRP: $995 (about $850 street…the black version MSRP’s for $895,  about $750 street). New is often not better but in my opinion this group did an excellent job. The dual piston Versaport design also moves the gas system from its usual spot down the barrel back towards the receiver. He has credits in more than 1,000 articles in nearly 80 publications worldwide. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Virginian Member. Forty-two hit the lower quadrant, and 31 hit the right quadrant. Longer shells obscure some of the ports as they produce more gas to cycle the gun. You'll discover ways to improve your shooting, learn about the best new products and how to easily maintain your shotgun so it's always reliable. By venting the gas earlier, combined with the Supercell recoil pad, we are able to spread out the energy created by the recoil event (impulse) over a longer period of time, therefore reducing the peak force felt by the shooter.” The V3 is proving to be quite a shotgun, that will handle both light and heavy loads. NOT SURE WHAT BROKE BUT MY HAS FUNCTIONED FLAWLESSLY SINCE I RECEIVED IT ABOUT 5 MONTHS AGO AND I HAVE PROBABLY 1200 ROUNDS THROUGH IT. – They have tornadoes that can kill your ass dead. Downsides: I put this combination to practical use afield on two turkey hunts in Arkansas and Oklahoma. My only complaint is the magazine loads a little stiff. Bottom line: a Versaport equipped shotgun reliably cycles just about any load — from heavy 3 1/2-inch shells to shorter 2 3/4″ 1-ounce target loads — while minimizing felt recoil. It is very soft on recoil, handles all (even 1-oz target loads officially and the 1100 ft-sec 7/8oz we used to load unofficially) 2-3/4" and 3" loads. The V3 is not a 3-1/2 inch gun with a 3 inch chambered barrel stuck into it, rather it is a completely new design, designed to be a … These included Winchester, Remingtons, Brownings, Berettas, etc. The entire firearm can be disassembled with only a punch. Mind you, I’ve been into a bunch of 1100’s and 87’s. Never mind a nice semi-auto or pump. Kudos to Remington!!! The gas pistons WILL NOT COME APART. I’ve had my 28” walnut model V3 for over two years, has functioned without fail on the skeet range and in dove fields. Might want to re-read the review. Some folks have commented on the plastic trigger guards. Hey all, I'm looking to pick up a new shotgun and I had it narrowed down to the Benelli M4 Super 90, until I messed around with a Versa Max … Simple system. . In its present configuration, it looks generic. Advise!!! All metal. Why not? One nice V3 feature is a magazine cutoff at the end of the loading ramp. Value: * * * * That includes places to shoot, ways to improve your shooting and the latest new products. Still, the V3 is a lot softer on the shoulder than an inertia-operated gun and even other gas semi-autos on the market, and I’ll take a bit of kick as a sacrifice for a lighter gun, especially at the end of a long day in the uplands. The design and quality appear to be better than anticipated. These chokes left something to be desired. Put 500 rounds of 3 and a half inch turkey Loads through it and if the receiver is still in one piece give me a call. Our goal is to provide you with the best coverage in wing and clays shooting. It is an extremely user friendly gun with the lowest recoil of any 12 gauge I have ever shot in 58 years of shotgun use. Further comfort as well as solid purchase are achieved by overmolded, rubber grips on the stock and forend. It has never balked at any shell I have fed it. 2. Need to seal the fore end since there can be blowback I've got a 1301 and a Versamax. You should see which one fits you best and mounts best. This gun does not have o rings and is likely much less money to produce. For more than 200 years, Remington firearms have been forged from the untamed spirit that will always define the American spirit — Revolutionizing an industry. Word was the Remington would be bring out a tactical version of the V3. There are eight ports in the barrel near the breech. They’re built right here.” By those standards, the V3 is a bargain: $600-$700 less than comparable Browning, Beretta or Benelli guns. The V3 features fewer moving internal parts than traditional semi-auto gas actions. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Certainly not duck hunt ending, but c’mon. I got the Remington V-3 for my grandson for Christmas, it shoots flawlessly when you can get the shells in the mag. It’s really immaterial at this point because I don’t have time for duck and goose hunting. Your pressures will go up – but not as much as most people fear. Did you train at Twenty Nine Palms? The version made available to me was black synthetic. Six shots and my brand new V3 broke. After shooting the V3 my trusty 870 might convert to HD use. If you really want inertia, then get a Franchi. Or a magnum rifle. About 6 months ago, I bought a new V3 walnut with 26 inch barrel after having owned, repaired and shot most popular semi autos from the past 50 years. Thanks in advance. You can, indeed, put too-long shells into a shorter chamber. While it’s tough to see above, the receiver’s been drilled and tapped for mounting an optic. While Remington says it has no plans to discontinue the venerable 11-87, it’s hard to see both models staying in the Big Green lineup long term. With the standard Modified and Improved chokes, many pellets hit about 3-4 inches under the bottom quadrant. $850 with a plastic trigger guard because they figure thats better then $900 with a metal one. Now at the pattern board I could tell the difference and that is due to the extra 2 … My first shots with the V3 were with 3-inch Winchester Drylocks with 1¼-ounce of No. You’d have to drive 45 minutes west to get a good steak or something like that. The factory Full choke hit well to the right. We got a discount from Remington (thank you) and were assured that this new design would be more comfortable for our smaller shooters, and easier to clean. Unlike the older Remington 1100 , the Versa Max uses an ingenious port based system to adjust gas pressure appropriately based on shell length without having to change barrels. A 26" V3 in either Walnut or Black Synthetic will probably be my next gun. Don’t get me wrong I like my Citoris, Winchesters, Mossbergs, etc but I love my Remington’s, they are my “go to” guns when I need to take care of business! It’s slimmer and almost a full pound lighter than the 11-87, costs less than the Versa Max and offers a … That differential didn’t seem to be a liability on flying targets, but I wanted better performance for the sake of confidence. And what problem does this particular gun solve that the 1100 or 1187 had? I’ll be archiving that for the future. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Won’t make a goose gun either. Downsides: I prefer for the gun to tell them. In an industry that’s been around for hundreds of years that’s probably not as easy as it may seem. It ran everything I threw at it and begged for more, without so much as a look at a cleaning brush or a sniff of CLP. Remington opted to chamber the V3 for only 2¾ and 3-inch shells. Older Remington’s are legit, I’ve got a 30 year old wingmaster with the smoothest shotgun action I’ve ever felt. The semi-auto ships with three flush-mounted Rem Chokes: Improved Cylinder, Modified and Full. – There’s few good places to eat in Trinidad. marketing! The Remington V3 is simply engineered with only a few moving parts. Update: Remington got back to me, and is replacing the barrels with the updated gas blocks that have pistons that remove with a hex wrench to help my youth trap program keep moving forward. Today’s shotgun-buying public demands both innovation and evolution. Well, you might possibly be able to do it, with a whole lot of cramming…once. We installed the recoil reducer as the 3.5's were hurting his shoulder (sally ) it made a huge difference in the recoil. Overall Length: 49 inches This also eliminates the long push rod and plunger assembly that actuates the recoil spring in traditional gas guns. It placed 89 pellets in the square, with 30 in the lower quadrant, 28 in the left quadrant and 21 in the right quadrant. Whelp… once again, you’re going to see evidence that I have an idea what it costs to make a quality gun when you put this up against a 1100 or 1187 (never mind a Browning, or European semi-auto). I could write up a whole article on old shotgun chambers vs. modern chambers. Remington wants to make a cheaper, crappier shotgun to obscure the fact that you can’t buy a quality shotgun for under $1K any more. I used the Full Carlson’s tube with a 3-inch, 2-ounce blended loads Nos. Ratings Snapshot 5. out of 5. These chokes reduced the point of aim/point of impact discrepancy dramatically, but not perfectly. In future incarnations, we’d like to see at least a modest attempt to bestow some aesthetic personality in the V3. They know their weather, too. I just got my v3 for chirstmas this past year I have had no problems at all. Or a magnum revolver. I wish you were my gunsmith because the last one I had didn’t know the difference between mechanical zero and optical zero. The Versa Max is chambered for 3½” shells but will handle lighter 2¾” loads too. Benelli M4 vs mossberg 930/940 recoil vs remington versamax Im looking to get a semi auto shotgun at some point and was wondering what the recoil is like on the mossberg 930 and 940 vs the benelli vs remingtons v3 versamax or whatever its called. If shooting buck shot same thing. I’ve been working on this for three weeks now, and nothing but runaround from Remington. Grip surfaces are textured. Weight: 7 1/4 pounds There is a lot of great guns currently on the market, but in my opinion the V3 is the best for the value. These readers gain a competitive advantage from the valuable advice delivered directly to their inbox. The stock and fore-end feel a little thicker than most, and I was a little concerned about that. It was the second time he’d had it out, and he was sharing with his brother. As a baseline, Remington’s V3 is comparable to its sibling Versa Max semi-auto, but the V3 is a new design that shares no internal parts with its Versa Max predecessor. Y’all will be OK if you don’t panic.” Absolutely wonderful people. I’m just a normal guy that shoots for fun and bags a few pheasant each year but it’s the best I’ve owned. What I forgot was that a full pound of weight was missing from the Versa Max I am used to shooting, which makes the V3 a bit snappy with magnum loads. Assuming that it has characteristics similar to the Versa Max Tactical and cost similar to other V3s, this might be a good thing. We’ve broken two punches and rounded out two wrenches on it. I have an opportunity to get a brand new versa max from a friend who won it in a raffle for about half the shelf price, but have heard rumblings of the gun being a piece of junk. Shell size determines the number of gas ports exposed in the Remington V3. Joined: Apr 7, … With a 28-inch barrel it weighs 7 pounds, 4 ounces – the weight slightly less with the 26-inch barrel. Break-Up Country) or basic black, for a Benjamin less. A little background on me- bought an early 887 in Remington’s dark days. Currently the Remington V3 is available only in 12 gauge. That thing had problems with the low recoil slugs. OK, well, in three hours, there was a wall of black to the northwest of my driving path that stretched from the ground to “higher than I can see” and I literally could see nothing inside this wall of black. The gun weighs in at 7 ¾ pounds, which is slightly lighter than the Benelli M4 or the FN SLP. The history in NM in the southeast part of the state is incredible. Beware the trap fields the ejection is impressive. levels, so your second and third shots are as comfortable and on-target as your first. “Go here, do this, don’t do that. Remington must have paid a marketing major to convert/ruin Benelli’s design. In Issue 6, we reviewed the Versa Max Tactical and found it to be a great shotgun with a no-fuss gas system, soft recoil, huge loading port, and extensive adjustability for fit. The food in the Murray State cafe’ is OK, but nothing special. In 2019 the Waterfowl Pro was added to the V3 lineup. Can the sportsman be shimed like the standred Versa Max and what are the dfferences. I prefer gas actions for heavy loads and the Versa Max had a recoil reduction system. You have entered an incorrect email address! I’d rather pay a little more and get the Benelli 3 1/2″ version. Translate that for me, please. I don’t like having to tell fellow gunners I’m shooting a Remington. When it’s working.” Seems to be the Remington mantra these days. Which should make it easy to go green. However, I can afford but don’t like them! I’m going to be “that guy” and goes there. It is a remarkably soft shooting shotgun and easily the cleanest shooting. The Remington website advertises that the Versa Max recoil system reduces the recoil of 12 gauge to that of a pump-action 20 gauge. I drove down from Wyoming, but if I were flying, I’d go into DFW and drive north. It doesn't matter to some guys. The point of impact proved well below the point of aim. Time will tell how well it holds up but this is an exceptionally simple, elegant design, and those tend to work well. Recoil Pads & Plates Recoil Reduction Devices Red Dot Sights Rifle Chassis ... All parts listed in this category are specific to the Remington Versa Max Shotgun unless otherwise noted. The receiver is shorter than the Versa Max, with a natural consequence of a shorter length of reach. I have a Benelli M4 & had a VersaMax. The trigger guard doesn’t make a difference in how it shoots so they figured it wasn’t worth making the gun more expensive by using a metal one. Everything you need to know about the shotgun sports is a mouse-click away. Great review, I have been looking into buying a Remington v3 and I think your review is the needed push to make me purchase it. Not to rain on a parade, but I have a concern about this gun. At this point I just know enough to know that there’s a lot more to learn. Other criticisms include the vents on the top of the forearm funnel gas upward into your sightline. The V3’s aesthetics are spartan. What we used to consider “field grade” semi-autos are now all sporting MSRP’s over $1K. Benelli M4 or Versa Max Tactical? I simply do not understand this obsession with “light, lighter, lightest” in “magnum” firearms. Which means everyone on the editorial staff prob received a complimentary one…..glad to see a review here. People also forget that most shells 100 years ago were made of waxed paper. It’s a clean system that eliminates carbon buildup on the magazine tube and drive system. Solid. – Tishomingo is actually a pretty small residential town. It produces almost no debris in the action after use. – Pretty close to Dallas/Ft Worth as a place to fly into. – The weather is hot and humid. 2 steel shot. Receiver is shorter than Versa Max so the balance is near center and it feels lively. There’s a temptation to compare the V3 to its Versa Max predecessor at first glance. When I drove into Anadarko, OK just before dark, there was not so much as a twig left on a tree in that town. Shotgun Life is the first online magazine devoted to the great people who participate in the shotgun sports. On the Benelli, this cross-bolt pin is shrouded by the receiver, you can only remove it by disassembling the gun. He has shot quite a few geese and ducks with this gun. You just compared a $540 V3 (from Bud’s Gun Shop) to a $2800 Fabarm. I shoot factory loads ranging from 1300 to 1550 fps. With that camo job, dropping it in the field risks losing it forever… . “It’s a dry heat” is so very true in the high desert in the summer. If you like the way it performs, avoid getting the engine management code ‘updated’ in the recall…. This is written up as a customer-serviceable part. Now, Since he installed the recoil reducer it wont cycle the 2 3/4 light loads. Halfway through our second outing with it, the little black pin you see in the underside picture noting the magazine cut off fell out mid round. Now months later and Remington hasn’t returned it fixed. Yes, but . What screaming problem do these widely sold, widely owned Remington products have? In some guns, the shotshell might have trouble extracting. Lot's of my shots are overhead and no I don't flinch. The overall length of a V3 with a 26-inch barrel is 47 inches, and 49 inches with a 28-inch barrel. Remington’s V3 semi-auto in black synthetic. I’m going to take a Gunsmithing class when my schedule allows it. Reliability: * * * * * It had considerable less recoil and I like the weight distribution on the V3 more. We went shooting sporting clays and my buddy brought his new V3. The V3 is available with 26- and 28-inch barrels. And on the recoil. They’re OK shotguns. Currently the “Black Lives Matter” and “Day of Rage” situations are the highest priority on my radar screen. If you can’t hit it with 2 shots of 2 3/4 don’t shoot at it. Very, very unhappy. Ever. V3 / Versa Max - Our .335" Overall Length Screws work in all 4 holes 1100 / 1187 / 870 - .313" Overall Length Screws for all 4 holes We have found that some models are not drilled and tapped from the factory. One year after it was officially announced, the new Remington V3 semi-auto shotgun is finally available at your local dealer, and for the most part it feels like a winner. A couple of really good Italian places, a good taco joint or two, and after that… things go downhill fast. This AGI place keeps bothering me and looks like some distance learning BS. The V3 is not a shrunken down Versa Max. Remington appears to be moving back to a quality product, at least shotgun wise. Big Green still sells both guns, in large numbers, for good reason. It is heart warming that with all the V3 models now available for turkey, waterfowl and compact versions; there is a model for anyone. For example, the recoil system is different. Shorter, softer-shooting, less powerful loads expose more ports and — voila! – You’re only 45 minutes away from the Whittington Center, one of the best ranges for any shooting discipline in the US I agree completely with the author! Recoil with 2.75” 1-1/8 loads is hardly noticeable. This is Remington Country. $41.03. The Remington Versa Max is a gas operated, magazine tube-fed, semi-automatic shotgun that is Remington’s hat in the ring of versatile shotguns that work with a variety of shells. It’s not fancy, but it just flat shoots. One good product does not make up for the steady string of fails. Absolutely 100% reliable. Crap. Hey Dyspeptic do you know of any good gunsmithing schools on the east coast close to Maryland. I think I know the answer to this already, but would like opinions on the Stoeger 3500 and the Remington Versa Max. Not everyone can afford or likes the “B”- bombers out there. There is no recoil spring inside the stock to rust and break. However, Remington’s engineers simplified the V3’s overall design. If you are using slugs just experiment with most open choke tubes and find out where it shoots. I left with my reliable gun shop and they knew exactly what went wrong. While I don't buy claims that the Versa Max "reduces recoil to that of a 20-gauge", it was quite manageable. The V3’s aesthetics are spartan. The weight on this shotgun is the biggest complaint I hear until they shoot it. I HAVE SHOT EVERYTHING FROM 2 3/4″ 1 OZ 3″ TURKEY LOADS AND NEVER A FTF OR JAM! Surprisingly good. Faced with quality competition and a loss of market share, Remington went back to work. The VM is mainly my waterfowl gun as I don't have to walk too much with it. remington versa-max After a very poor launch saddled with an instant recall, the Versa-Max has been improved to the point where it merits serious consideration for the goose pit. The only things that affect free recoil are weight of the firearm and velocity and speed of the ejecta. The first time around, it was struggling to feed, which we attributed to needing to be broken in. TuJays's Profile.270 WIN. The other school I can recommend is Murray State, in Tishomingo, OK. Pluses: This has changed in recent years with Remington’s Versa Max and V3, and Savage‘s Renagauge shotguns. Overall: * * * * * Tishomingo is about 50 miles east of the dry line. Length of Pull: 14 1/4 inches The point of aim/point of impact issue with Rem Chokes is a distraction that compromises the functionality of a gun that is otherwise very pleasant and fun to shoot. The V3’s magazine tube cut-off is a handy safety feature for hunters, should they find the need to hop a fence or climb into a tree stand with a loaded gun. We’ve had the guns for 3 months, and they started cycling poorly (estimated 2,000 rounds per gun), so we took them apart for a more thorough cleaning. To each his own but what kind of “sportsmen” bad mouth others and what they have ,,,,,,, what does it really say about them? PO Box 6423Thomasville, GA 31758Phone: 229-236-1632, Why Older and Younger Duck Hunters Are Turning to 20-Gauge Shotguns, « The Regal Krieghoff Essencia in 20 Gauge, Shooting the Bespoke British Ordnance Company Over/Under ». The LOP on the compact stock is 13 inches vs. 14.25 inches on the long stock. 8 lead shot. The gun is easy to break down and clean, too. Lock the action open and you’re good to traverse your obstacle safely. After people find out that the recoil hurts, they then start going down stupid paths, like porting, comps, muzzle brakes, etc. (We are not novice firearm owners, either.) Has a great trigger also. IIRC this is DU ‘s gun of the year. Better still, the Versaport system and the Remington Super Cell butt pad make the V3 one of the softest shooting gas guns you’ll ever shoulder. Well done Remington, well done indeed! In fact, the V3’s just as light and more affordable as many of its foreign-made, inertia-driven, harder-kicking competitors. I have the 28″ barrel, synthetic stock. — more gas is bled into the system to help cycle the action. Find the choke that favors the loads you are using and go hunting. You will appreciate the minimal recoil when shooting heavy loads. Three-gun competitors have agreed, making the Versa Max a common fixture at three-gun matches around the country, with a number of modifications commonly applied to optimize the platform for the game. 28” camo model. I know it is a fair hike form SoCal where you’re based, but the two schools I recommend the most for a summer class (which would be one or two weeks in duration) would be Trinidad State Junior College, in Trinidad CO (you’d fly into Colorado Springs, which is two hours to the north, or you could drive over on US 50 (go up to Sacramento, then just follow US 50 to Pueblo, CO, and drive an hour south – this would be a spectacular drive if you like the remote west), or you pick up US 40 in Barstow, drive out to ABQ, then drive north about 3 hours. 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